Voting Ends Thursday Nov 20th and the Winners will be Announced Friday Nov 21st!
Considering their vested interest in these awards Jennifer Lynch of the CHRC asked for and was granted a say in determining the nominees, it was the least we could do. Ms. Lynch perused each category and relayed her recommendations to me via the signalling device implanted in my brain.
You may view how diligently she worked below, besides she needs ammo.
Here are Your Nominees! Vote for Freedom!
1) Blogger most likely to face a Section 13(1) complaint
Links to Category Nominees: 5FeetofFury, Point de Bascule, Ezra Levant, Sheik Yer'Mami, G Person , Marginalized Action Dinosaur, Blazingcatfur
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2) Most Insulting to the Prophet Blog Post
Links to Category Nominees: No Dhimmitude - Muslim Cartoon People, Wally Keeler - SONNET IN THE NAME OF ALLAH, Colonel Robert Neville - Derek & Clive Discuss Islam, MAD - Sword of Islam
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3) Best Infidel Blogger - non-restricted category
Links to Category Nominees: Robert Spencer - Jihad Watch, Infidel Blogger Alliance, Free Canuckistan, Blood Thirsty Liberal, Dust My Broom
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4) Favourite Gal Infidel Blogger
Links to Category Nominees: SDA, Debbie Schlussel, Women against Sharia, The Outraged Spleen of Zion, Rachel Lucas, 5FeetOfFury, Girl on the Right, Blogging for a Free World, Shooting Star, Annie Lessard - Point de Bascule
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5) Favourite Guy Infidel Blogger
Links to Category Nominees: Jay Currie, Ezra Levant, Marginalized Action Dinosaur, Marc Lebuis of Point de Bascule, Trupeers of Covenant Zone, Binks of Free Canuckistan, Darcey of DustMyBroom, Nick of Ghost of a Flea
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6) Most favourite MSM Anti-Islamist Pundit
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7) Least Favourite Useful Idiot MSM Pundit
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8) Biggest Pro-Censorship Ass-Hat*
NB: *The Biggest Pro-Censorship Ass-Hat Category would have been won hands down by Lucy Warman, so we decided to share the love with other worthy contenders and exclude her.
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395 comments:
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Cowards. The lot of you.
ecmarm: I'm not medusa. I don't recall addressing you either. But apparently the shoe fits.....
So which one did medusa call you, that you took such exception to: a fascist, a religious wingnut or an old fashioned whiner?
Looks like whatever medusa said it left a mark: you are still bleating about it. Probably had a grain of truth. So tell me; what happened between you that you think a perfectly anoymous stranger must be medusa?
RE, look at that:
You are the type of LGF'er that we are talking about here. You are rude, conceited and like to take the "in your face" attitude that is so prevalent among those on the left. You are the reason why so many of us think that LGF is nothing more that a mirror of TheDailyKOS. You ridicule ideas you don't agree with and belittle those that present them. Let me show you what class looks like:
I'm out of here. Abu Lahab, we disagree, but you do a fine job presenting your case. I hope you enjoyed my posts as much as I have enjoyed yours. It's nice to have a disagreement without stooping to name calling or insults. I look forward to typing at you again.
Laters!
I wanted to vote for Pamela at Atlas as my favorite girl blogger. I can't quite see the logic of her not being on the ticket (for perseverance, hard work, and for boldly and regularly taking the fight from the internet out into meatspace which is VERY important). She should be on there especially in view of putting Charles on the ticket in a negative category. I thought long and hard about the censorship question and in the end I could not vote for (against) Charles because he's done so much for the movement, along with some considerable damage as well. We are all human though, and the pressure is very high. I just found that a vote for him seemed too mean spirited and I'm concerned in a sad way that he's perhaps coming unglued just a bit. I'm with him on the ID is NOT science meme, but he's not articulating why it's so important in anti-jihadist terms.
Hi jehu!
I make it a habit of not trying to reason with people who think that because one theory has flaws, another completely useless one perforce deserves consideration.
Non-conformity is great, but not when it is tantamount to stupidity.
Whoever the Anon was who spun freaks on a leash....
Good one! Thanks!
Hi Jeppo
Yes what you write is true, IMO you were never a "troll" despite all we disagree on and your behavior there was polite despite HUGE amounts of flak and real bile constantly being hurled at you.
I marveled at your perseverance, LOL
Ya one Plucky MFer!
I'll see you all later and
thanks very much to anyone who voted for me!
LOL!
archerb: I'm one of the people at LGF that has consistently argued one on one with Charles on multiple issues and I'm STILL not banned because it's HIS house.
Glory, any idiot can start a blog or rent an apartment, but you go to the site, you follow the rules of engagement. If you don't, you get kicked off, and its your problem. Accepting that is part of "class", archerb.
Yes I'm rude. In this case, I'm also telling you the truth, and you are having a hard time with it. Now why is that?
Smarmy oh-so-gracious sign-offs more valuable to you than the facts? Apparently.
look at that said..
No, you've been in the nut house so long you've developed an allergy to anything that resembles a fact. I didn't say PJM was comparable to the MSM. THEY DID. As I proved with a link.
"...but the intention was to provide a significant alternative to mainstream media."
Their words, not mine. And a Picture of CJ underneath. It's got nothing to do with whether I can post there or not.
You're allowing your delusional status as an anointed LGF poster blind you into thinking that you're smarter than everyone else. LGF is for intellectual pygmies who have no debating skills or self respect.
Where is Charles Johnson on this thread? If I was getting all this flack, I'd have the ass to pitch in and defend myself.
Bweep
Sorry, that reason (at time 5:12) is the importance of the separation of church/mosque and state. State applies science in many, many matters, though it's not always obvious ;-). If faith in the supernatural can be even minutely supported by science, it ain't faith by definition, it's science.
ID is a shell game that (inadvertently I hope) holds the door open for jihad. Is there some good reason religion might not be satisfied with the present space it is granted in a healthy secular society? Not if it's benign there isn't.
LOL!
ALTERNATIVe to the media doesn't mean "I can post anything that I like!"
Its the BLOGGER who offers the alternative with THEIR blog, not every single clown who wants to commen there. Comments are a prt of the blog, but they aren't the sum and substance of it.
Good heavens. No blog (except your own) revolves areound YOU. And guess what? Even though the evil censoring hypocrit etc. ad nauseam CHARKES has banned you you can still (somehow!) get a blog! And ban HIM if he visits! How delicious!
Or, of course ,you can whine here and let an anonymous nobody lead you around by the nose....
Sometimes it gets chilly down here in the winter. So I bought myself a Charles Johnson to wear on my behind.
"Look At That" = Medaura = Kejda.
look at that said.
Again, you are letting you're cultist mentality show. So Charles Johnson can have a blog. And I can have a blog. But I'm not allowed to criticise the Holy CJ blog on say....this blog. The only reason I could think that CJ is an ignorant anti European half wit is because I've been banned from his blog. I couldn't have come to that conclusion based on what he puts up there.
You don't know why I was banned. You just assume I was a clinging, fawning, snivelling sycophant like you and I didn't do it well enough. No actually not in my case. I never liked CJ. I just larked around with a few people there that I got on with. Then when CJ's ignorance got too much I called him on it.
On another occasion "incognito" I was banned for dinging down one of his posts. That was it. Some people were banned for searching for banned posters. It has nothing to do with what comments people post. You are just desperate to believe that your posts are of an elite quality that I can't match.
"you can whine here and let an anonymous nobody lead you around by the nose...."
Again. you are projecting. I've never been to this site before in my life. I doubt I'll be back. You are the one who thinks that have to be part of an elite little group.
This is precious: " But I'm not allowed to criticise the Holy CJ blog on say....this blog. "
Sure you are. And I'm allowed to say you are a whiner for joining in the general bleat about "censorship". And you HAVE been led around by the nose: you are responding with a perfectly stupid whine. Boo hoo you were banned. Whatever. yawn.
You don't know who I am, all you know is that I'm calling you a whiner, and in defense of yourself you are whining about "not being allowed to criticise" ...
You are whining about being called a whiner! But you aren't being led around by the nose, no sir!
You'll check back. You might not post again, but you'll check. Whiners generally do.
"And I am equally free to point out that he is a thin skinned little nancy, sensitive to the smallest perceived insults, who uses six degree of separation type relationships to claim people are closet Nazis."
"nancy" Hmmm...I've read him as the same......for many years. (Actually, "Dried-up Old Queen" would be more appropriate)
As Tamar, Ex-IsraPundit noted in the earlier years.."LGF is full of funny drunks.....they ain't serious, but they are very funny"
The lady was right! "Lightweight Grimey Foosballs" is the preferred refuge of drunken sods. LGF is the "Daily KOS" for millions of Log Cabin Pinheads across the nation.
BabbaZee said...
>I'll see you all later and
thanks very much to anyone who voted for me!<
I've been watching you for quite a while miss, and although I appreciate some of the investigative work that you've done I've come to the unfortunate conclusion that you're also a very sick individual.
Get some professional help, please.
Whiner. No I don't think so.I thought I was just joining in the general shoeing of some little Internet prick who maligns my country on a daily basis. You're just reading what you want to read. I'm not whining about not being allowed to criticise. I am criticising. This is me here doing it. You are the one who clings to the belief that I'm just bitter about not being in the CJ fan club. That's something that's important to you. Not me.
Again. I didn't say I was leaving. I meant I won't be back on other occasions. On other threads. You are such a lightweight you are used to bleating with the LGF sheep about how unassailable your arguments are. LGF ...'A tough room'....All that bollocks. You want to believe that we're all going to run away from you. What you're being told here by everybody is that the reason you think you're so right about everything at LGF is that everybody who doesn't agree with you is banned. It's like a club for eight stone weaklings...You all strut around thinking you're Charles Atlas, but only 'cos nobody bigger than you is allowed in.
Bweep
look at that said...
For those unaware -MPH and Medusa will share the same nic - then claim rightfully, yet dishonestly, that they are not the same. Just a FYI.
As if someones writing style, content, and use of punctuation is not a dead giveaway. But that same refugee from a third-world shit-hole, forced to marry some dumb schmuck in order to escape, has very little respect for Americans.
Oops. I thought you weren't coming back, anonymous? Oh wait, you didn't say that, or you said that but didn't mean it, or you really meant something else....Oh dear.
Just can't stand being called a whiner after you whine about "not being allowed' "I wuz banned"...I didn't say you were bitter: said you are a whiner. And here you are whining MORE. I have loads of respect for America. Not for you (so far, anyways: all you seem to do here is complain about being banned and insist that I'm someone who annoyed you).
Who is this medusa person? You certainly seem to have nursed your resentment well. Like I say, probably made an observation about you that went home. What was it? Did he/she call you a whiner?
"Look At That" = troll.
I post as 'rainydayweather' at LGF2 (www.littlegreenfootballs2.com).
I am most certainly not a racist or a Neo Nazi, and that is NOT why I was banned from LGF.
Here is what I had to say at LGF2 about Johnson's post at LGF complaining about being voted a censor in the poll at this blog:
I was never involved with any of Johnson’s Vlams Belaang posts, since I found it very boring. I scrolled past his Vlams Belaang stories at LGF.
I was never told why I was banned.
The last few posts I made at LGF consisted of links to pages that criticized Evolution or that supported Creationism. So I can only assume I was banned for providing those links.
So for Johnson to claim that all ex-LGFers were banned over racism or Vlams Belaang content is FALSE.
I love how Johnson tries to depict himself as the martyr when it’s folks like us who were banned over trivial or unfair reasons.
Here's one question: You are foamoing and whinining about a perfectly trivial point: you got banned. The horror of it all. Somebody disagreed with you ion the intrernet. rage against the machine!
What kind of mentality places this importance on being called a whiner, while anonymous, by someone else that is anonymous?
Ans: one of the many species of gotta-be-right pinheads on the internet. Someone was complaining about not tolerating dissent....
Vote early, vote often!
Medusa - Don't you have a lawn to cut, some beds to make, some legs to spread, some household chores to perform? Go back to albania and take your hatred with you. Americans don't have time for the sort of centuries old blood feuds you seem to enjoy. You're not fooling anyone here.
Mr. Johnson is holding a Web-Conference;
http://www.gayamerica.com
And yet another person thinks I'm "medusa". This is getting very funny. I didn't know I was Albanian, and if Americans "don't have time" for whatever it is you think Albanians enjoy, there sure are a lot of people here spending time on a complete delusion.
I guess its preferable to spend time being delusional on the internet to spending time on a "blood feud" (whatever you think that is. Sounds unpleasant.), but it hardly seems reasonable to insist that time spent being delusional isn't also time that could be spent in other ways.
So Perseus, what did medusa say to you, that you still resent it? Or are you just joining in the groupthink, like a brave, brave indepedant antifascist?
"Look at that said...
Oops. I thought you weren't coming back, anonymous? Oh wait, you didn't say that, or you said that but didn't mean it, or you really meant something else....Oh dear."
Oh excuse me Mr Spencer while I squeeze past. There's not much room in here with "Look at that's" great brain.
I said "I doubt I'll be back". That is an example of the use of "will" in English to avoid using the present simple tense to indicate that I am talking about an indefinite, untimetabled event.
So you see smart ass. You've retreated to the point where you have to argue about grammar and syntax and you can't even win that.
By the way. I'm not American. I'm British. European. I'm in the UK now. You know all about Britain don't you. You read all about it on a blog by some clown in California.
Bweep
LOL!
I knew you'd be back! You "doubted" it, but I knew it.
I don't care if you are from the antipodes: you're still a whiner that can be led, and HAS been led, around by the nose.
Doesn't it suck to be so predictable?
"By the way. I'm not American. I'm British. European. I'm in the UK now. You know all about Britain don't you. You read all about it on a blog by some clown in California."
Nothing wrong with Britain is there? Only you must be some sort of "Asylum seeker".....And I am not.
Poof, poof. poofster. Go home.
BabbaZee sez: "(I) was nominated as best gal blogger (which was how I ended up on this thread)."
Me, too -- only I'm THRILLED at the nomination, and want to thank the Award Committee for including me. I'm not fit to wipe the shoes of other nominees who have been a lot more focused on Islamist insanity than me -- but I'm honored, very truly, and feel about three feet off the ground.
BabbaZee -- take a chill pill. And then a perspective pill.
P.S. Blazing Cat Fur for Section 13 Target!
That Babbazee seems to be pretty much on target.
However.
Charles has discovered that "Babba" is a JEW!!!!!!!!!!!!
ZOG, ZOG, ZOG!
"So Perseus, what did medusa say to you, that you still resent it?"
For someone who claims not to be Medusa (waves to MPH) you sure act like Medusa. If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck... (google it biatch)
BTW: I favor immigration. Legal immigration. Not sham marriages where one party spreads her legs in order to receive American citizenship, then proceeds to act in such fashion as to diminish the opinion of how others view Americans throughout the world. Go back to your sorry little third-world country and piss on the burnt-out ashes of Christian churches while you make up stories of Christian atrocities. You are so transparent, yet seem to think you're pulling one over on us. It's not working, you big fake.
Legal immigration. Not sham marriages where one party spreads her legs in order to receive American citizenship, then proceeds to act in such fashion as to diminish the opinion of how others view Americans throughout the world. Go back to your sorry little third-world country and piss on the burnt-out ashes of Christian churches while you make up stories of Christian atrocities. You are so transparent, yet seem to think you're pulling one over on us. It's not working, you big fake.
Good heavens. You sound pretty angry. Do you think posting recurrent fantasies about women spreading their legs and pissing etc. enhances the image of Americans? If someone were so stupid as to typify a whole nation by the behavior of some of its its internet denizens, on the evidence of this site right now I'd be classifying the English as dim witted whiners, and Americans as a motley grab bag of religious wingnuts and delusional potty mouthed mysogynists.
Well hey, can't say I've been to your site all that much to read whatever it is you have to say, but ... seeing as your misjudge Charles and LGF so wantonly, I see little point in exploring your site for any gems that might be here. You're wrong. You've been told you are wrong by many and yet you persist.
Have it your way. I certainly have better blogs to read.
BTW - LGF has been a daily stop of mine for around six years now. And I don't see that changing over your petty attitude.
HAND
look at that said...
Listen, Medusa. You support the people who burn churches and then piss all over the ashes. I find that a hell of a lot more offensive than four-letter words. Don't you?
Of course you won't directly answer that question, because Medusa never will. She has caused more damage to the reputation of LGF than she will ever know. Which is why lgf is sliding to its knees faster than an albanian slut seeking citizenship.
I was banned from LGF 4 days ago without an explanation or even a warning.
I'm not a Eurofascist, I'm a Canadian, NOT a fascist,
and my comment was not racist AT ALL.
It did not even contain foul language!!!
weird...
I have found comments on other sites from people who used to think highly of LGF and Charles Johnson but who now have lost respect for him because he is at war with more people than one can keep count of
( attacking Robert Spencer was the most shocking for me ) and he bans people as if it was his favorite sport.
So yes he deserves the title of biggest pro-censorship ass-hat.
Definitely.
To mudusa & the whore,
Robert Spencer is one of the most gracious warriors in the counter jihad. He is truthful, thought provoking, and he risks his life and reputation to educate about the dangers we are facing. When Charles decided to talk about him, it opened many eyes to what has been going on in the last year or two at LGF.
Charles lied on the thread pointing out this vote when he claimed it was only a bunch of fascists that he banned. (alert! alert! They're being mean to your master!) People that were there when he banned most of them know better.
Some martyr.
I've lost respect for the ones that are still hanging around. None of them can honestly say that all of these people were banned from LGF "for supporting fascists and/or being hostile obsessive jerks". Not unless you call anyone that disagrees with your leader a hostile obsessive jerk.
Because that is all most of them did. He banned people based on how they rated comments for God's sake. That is the ultimate in thought control. The didn't have to say a word, just indicat how they felt on the matter and they were out of there if it didn't meet the lead lizard criteria.
To the good ones that are still there, branch out. There are other blogs that give the same information and you don't have to lick their asses to stay.
LGF? Who?
Listen, Medusa. You support the people who burn churches and then piss all over the ashes. I find that a hell of a lot more offensive than four-letter words. Don't you?
Given that I'm not Medusa, your whole question is silly. Given that you are completely wrong about who I am, I have no confidence that anything you assert about someone else is true, nor should I have any. Furthermore, if Medusa has said what you say she has, Medusa could simply be lying about who she (or he) is. How do I know this "Medusa" person is real at all? There are a lot of liars on the internet. Also (seemingly) a lot of gullible fools. Of course urinating on a church is deeply offensive, but then again, I don't know whether the person you describe as supporting such stuff is actually as you describe, and unless you have some way of verifying all your information (and I really doubt you do) I am left with the definite facts before me: you post like a potty mouthed mysogynist, and you are deluded as to my identity. So while you present me with something that is quite possibly a fantasy, the fact is that I doubt you are enhancing the image of Americans abroad.
Do you need that broken down into smaller pieces for you?
Of course you won't directly answer that question, because Medusa never will. She has caused more damage to the reputation of LGF than she will ever know. Which is why lgf is sliding to its knees faster than an albanian slut seeking citizenship.
Tsk. There you go: enhancing the image of Americans worldwide again. What is it about sluttish women that so interests you? Frustrated? Jealous? Spurned?
....And "look at that" crashes and burns degenerating into petty insults. I'd like to say I'm above such things but I've already called you an LGFer which is about as bad a label as I can think of.
As far as indulging in fantasies. Well, you're the one imagining that I said somewhere I was leaving. I've pointed out that it's just your poor grasp of basic English.
By the way "Look at that". Here's one to take home with you. From Charles Johnson's LGF dictionary.
racist - A statement of surrender during an argument. When two people or disputants are engaged in an acrimonious debate, the side that first says "Racist!" has conceded defeat. Synonymous with saying "Resign" during a chess game, or "Uncle" during a school yard fight. Originally, the term was meant to indicate that one side was accusing the other of being racist, but once it was noticed that people only resorted to this tactic when all other arguments had been exhausted, it acquired its new meaning of "indicating one's own concession of defeat."
Go back and ask Nancy how he reconciles that with his treatment of Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller. Racist...Nazi....sounds close enough to me as smears go.
Bweep
I'm off to bed now. Just need to check underneath for Islamist head choppers. I'll pop in again to see who won the ass hat award....snigger...It's my prerogative.
Posted by rainydayweather:
To make a few points clear, because a few buddies of Johnson keep coming into this thread to say we all surely must have deserved to have been banned for one reason or another:
I did not bash Charles Johnson on his LGF blog, or at any other blog.
I did not criticize Johnson at any blog or site until AFTER I was banned.
And I assume I was banned for pasting links to sites that are critical of Darwinism in a few posts, which is hardly an offense worthy of banning.
I assume that is why I was banned, since I had not posted to his blog for a couple of months or so before that time, and I was not told why I was banned.
As a matter of fact, Johnson was condescending and rude to me in a post or two he did in response to my polite posts to him.
For one thing, I am a Christian, so I am supposed to be polite to people even if they are being hateful to me.
Secondly, I knew that Johnson has a sensitive, touchy ego, and had I been anything less than polite to him, it would've made him angry, and he would have banned me for being rude.
So I avoided being rude to him, even when he was rude to me.
I rarely posted at LGF. I usually just liked to read the main page, to skim over the headlines.
Days, weeks or sometimes months would go by where I would not even visit his blog.
So I was hardly a trouble maker at his blog. My posts at LGF were infrequent.
When I did post about Creationism and Intelligent Design at his blog, I expressly said that I did not care one way or another if either subject was taught in public school.
Therefore, you cannot argue that he banned me for advocating that Creationism/ID be taught in public schools.
(However, I do not think it is acceptable for Johnson to ban someone from his blog just because they do believe in a literal, six- day creation story, or for saying they want that taught in school.)
To anyone on here that would deny that Johnson is an anti-Christian bigot, I am amazed.
It's quite obvious he has no respect for Christians or Christianity.
To the person who was defending Johnson by saying that people who reject Macro Evolution are "anti Science"-
Creationists and Christians are not "anti science."
Many of our early scientists were Christians and theists, such as Isaac Newton.
And guess what? Although I totally disagree with Macro Evolution, I passed all my science courses in high school on through university- and yeah, the universities I went to were accredited ones.
I don't see what one's beliefs about science or evolution has to do with fighting Islamic Jihad anyhow. It's like apples and oranges.
I happen to like orange juice and the color blue.
I'm sure there are some militant Islamic Jihadis who wear blue and drink orange juice.
So, from your reckoning, orange juice and the color blue must be evil, stupid, and to be avoided at all costs.
Go back and ask Nancy how he reconciles that with his treatment of Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller. Racist...Nazi....sounds close enough to me as smears go.
Oh snap!
Oh dear. Bweep: whatever Charles' opinions, or mine, you are still a whiner. The fact is: you don't really care about his opinions. You care that he banned you. Attempt honesty.
You don't have to say you'll be back: I already told you you would be, even when you said you "doubted it". You can't keep away, 'cause you think its bigger than you, and you're at the CENTRE OF IT ALL.
Its enough to make anyone weep. Or laugh. Nighty night!
Uh? Was that MPH or Medusa that replied to me? Or did you IM Sharmuta to fill in?
But that is a prime example of what lgf has become, a plethora of sock-puppets of unidentifiable origin, with a triad of misfits making a lot of loud noise - as if by being loud and obnoxious and ever-present they represent some majority view, while "the Johnson" bans those that don't drop to their knees. It's no wonder lgf has lost rank by around 20%. It's become a moby filled so-called "right-wing" site with a hand-full of leftists preparing to take over. "The Johnson" deserves his reward, every inch of it. Since Medusa is easily offended by descriptions of her everyday behaviour, I won't mention where he should put the award.
Nobody cares about Charles or his opinions. It is only when you have to conform to his to post at his blog that he runs into a brick wall.
People are like that. They have their own opinions sometimes.
"Yet, many good friends of mine - Fjordman for one - have been vilified and banned for even the tiniest 'offense'"
Your good buddy is a racist. Despite the agonizingly long posts Of Fjordman he can't seem to wrap his head around the fact that skin color doesn't matter. Your beliefs do.
And I'm more than chagrined at seeing Babbazee hang around with a bunch of fascists.
No no, that was me, Perseus. Not MPH, Medusa, Sharmuta, or any of the other little ghosts that fill your head. That you have to ask the question should bring you to a realisation about the conceited stupidity of your claims to date.
Did the light go on? No? Then let me supply you with a hint: given your incredible obtuseness here (not to mention your rather ugly set of prejudices, and your gullibility), in this conversation, why should anyone give credence to any of your other opinions?
Hello? Look to the evidence about yourself, brave warrior. You've posted it, and it isn't pretty.
Nighty night.
posted by rainydayweather:
"look at that" is one annoying troll.
It's interesting that he/she is interacting with only one or two specific ex-LGF posters in this thread, as though there is a personal history there.
This in-fighting bores me as much as Johnson's fixation on Neo Nazism and European political parties.
At any rate, I hope "look at that" leaves this blog and goes back to LGF and stays at LGF.
There is nothing at all wrong or petty about criticizing CJ. Obviously, a ban by CJ can be felt personally. That may motivate one to write negatively about CJ. However, ultimately, those banned by CJ should criticize him and vigorously because: (1) he was an erstwhile seemingly vigorous critic of Islamic expansionism and the dangers it poses to the West, but he has gone soft; (2) his “prestige,” while clearly on the wane, still sucks people in and those people need to be informed about what kind of information arbiter CJ is, since they may think they are getting real, uncensored, non-MSM-filtered, when in fact they are just getting CJ-filtered biases; (3) the growth of sites that focus on the threat of Islam to the world should be encouraged without having someone as unstable as CJ trying to define what is acceptable criticism of Islam by smearing all of those who for some reason offend him.
CJ has become the very things he once professed to oppose: an “idiotarian,” an absolutist and a politically correct stool pigeon.
Ladies and Gentleman, I am pleased to have provided this forum to you all.
I ask that we keep our discussion as civil as possible.
No cussin, mind.
Thank you.
posted by rainydayweather:
Thank you, blazing cat fur, for allowing us all to post and vent here!
Yes, go back to sleep. Pretend that what I said is not true. As an albanian, barely literate in English, I imagine you're not much on mythology - are you, Medusa? You might have recognized my nic. Hehehe...
I'm out for the night, but Medusa always gets the last word/words...
so - the floor is yours...
rainyday weather:
A troll is only as annoying as you let them be. If you think I'm a troll, don't feed me. Since you cared enugh to comment, presumably you'll care enough to read back through the thread and find that of the assorted dimwits I'm replying to, two I addressed to begin with because I'd already seen their behavior up close at LGF. Never really argued with either of them there: didn't seem to be a point to it. Here, they make my point for me. The even more foolish pair of Bweep and Perseus decided to take up cudgels because I resembled some hideous monster from their past, and again, make my point perfectly.
Your hope is likely to be fulfilled. On the other hand, if you are dumb enough to be indifferent to the teaching of unmitigated codwallop posing as science in the classroom, then perhaps you are also foolish enough to entertain me further.
Perseus, do you think creationists , IDers and other such delusional hacks in the science classroom aren't in fact a complete embarassment to America? Or is it only fevered imaginations about sluttish Albanians that raise your concern?
Since we're all real big on LGF having to be consistent and all.....
Its all very well Johnson boasting that he wants to keep out the fascists and racists....but its something else entirely when he accuses someone of being a holocaust denier, asks them to refute this and then closes their account without giving them a chance to do so!
Thats exactly what happenned to me not so long ago. I made an observation ( essentially no more than that that there is such a thing as holocaust denial ) and he appeared on the thread ( very unusually so ) to interject a comment to suggest that I was denying the holocaust myself.
I am in the UK. This happenned at about 4.AM UK time. When I went back to the thread the next day, I found he had commented: "This sounds like holocaust denial. Its qurestion time. Are you a holocaust denier? And by the way, this poster has also made comments in support of the BNP".
I rushed to post my refutation of this accusation. But found I had been tried, found guilty and banned without even being present!
Consequently, he had in effect slandered someone as a holocaust denier to whom the holocaust was a very formative influence in my life, even if before my birth. Apart from his being a long haired hippie and bicyclist with a dreadful taste in music, I dont know anything about Johnsons background. But I DO know that both my parents were actually bombed and strafed by the NAZIs for several years and never stopped telling us about it as kids.
The idea of calling ME a holocaust denier is as rificulous as can be imagined. But what really grates is when he throws in the observation that I have said things in support of the BNP. What the hell does he know about the BNP? He lives 12000 miles away, spending most of his time on a bike!
Indeed, this comment of his ( presupposing that a favourable obsaervation of the BNP is not something we can tolerate in our English dominions ) is the very embodiment of the kind of attitude that makes every Englishman, a few millimetres beneath the surface, viscerally anti-American.
In the interest of rational discourse and recognition of the fact that the USA is the anchor of freedom in the world today, I try to repress this inherent characteristic of the English, that we regard Americans with contempt and disdain. But when that plonker Johnson expressed the view that I am not entitled to free opinion of legitimate political parties in my own Mother Of Parliaments, it makes me tend to lose my grip on such restraint.
If this is how he affects me, I hate to think how many people he has pissed off and how much damage he actually does "the cause".
In the interest of rational discourse and recognition of the fact that the USA is the anchor of freedom in the world today, I try to repress this inherent characteristic of the English, that we regard Americans with contempt and disdain. But when that plonker Johnson expressed the view that I am not entitled to free opinion of legitimate political parties in my own Mother Of Parliaments, it makes me tend to lose my grip on such restraint.
So what DO you think of the BNP?
As for my view of the BNP, now you ask: They stand absolutely no chance whatsoever of achieving any kind of "power", if for no other reason that they are too small in following. Therefore, they are a safe vehicle for expressing disdain of the dominant oligarchy ( whether Conservative or Labour ) in the form of the time-honoured "protest vote".
If there were any chance of their achieving power, I would argue that such a protest vote would be dangerous. As it is, all that materially happens is that in council wards ( and they have only a few councillors and no MPs anyway, remember ) the Labour candidates are obliged to address issues ( such as immigration ) which they would otherwise refuse to discuss.
The BNP are a bunch of crook-nosed semi-literate thugs, but sometimes, rarely but pointedly, they happen to bring issues legitimately into the open. An example being when Nick Griffin was tried on a charge of stirring racial hatred because he had stated at a meeting what it actually says in the Quran at Surah 4 verse 3. He was acquitted because he had merely stated a fact. A fact which now has had somewhat more attention drawn to it as a result.
They stand absolutely no chance whatsoever of achieving any kind of "power", if for no other reason that they are too small in following. Therefore, they are a safe vehicle for expressing disdain of the dominant oligarchy ( whether Conservative or Labour ) in the form of the time-honoured "protest vote".
Protest votes for such parties legitimise extremism: they make it more ordinary and acceptable. The BNHP are more than simply dimwitted thugs: they are racist and fascist. You yourself can barely contain your prejudice: the attitudes of a stranger thousands of miles away towards you makes you twitter and confess that you think every Englishman shares your absurd prejudice towards Americans and that you are about to lose your restraint.
So let's be clear: you politically legitimise what you know to be wrong, but complain that someone else should be more fair. How can someone who deliberately legitimises lies complain that they are treated unfairly?
Of course, it isn't really about your poitical views: its about precious you being banned. No one said you aren't entitled to free opinion: you got banned from posting on someone else's blog. "Mother of parliaments" has nothing to do with it. Such air-headed conceit: websites are private property.
I was banned from LGF 4 days ago without an explanation.
My comment did not contain foul language,
I'm certainly not a Eurofascist,
I'm a Canadian and not a fascist.
My comment was not racist either.
But it was deleted and my account closed without any explanation.
My email remains unanswered.
Charles Johnson deserves the title
"biggest pro-censorship ass-hat"
"Look at that".
You can disagree over BNP. Fine. Thats called an argument. To ban someone for disagreeing, well what DO you call that.
You are right, its not about political views. Its about the injustice of being slandered. Made worse when its done by someone who hasnt a clue. I take it you a\re a yank as well.
You can disagree over BNP. Fine. Thats called an argument. To ban someone for disagreeing, well what DO you call that.
Yes, its called an argument, but my position in the argument goes to the heart of your complaint. You say its about justice, but if I am right, your complaint HAS no justice. You're one more legitimiser of racism and fascism. I'd toss you outfrom my private property in a second as either a Jew hater or a stupid tool.
What do I call banning you? Reasonable. I'll be clear: you had your parents strafed by Nazis? I lost half of my family, and slack jawed narcissists legitimising fascist lies and poncing around and prating about the mother of parliaments entitling them to vomit up their idiocy on private property make me think :"screw you, Charley"
Has dick all to do with censorship: you have a whole blog here packed with morons, (some even English, so you don't have to soil yourself in your anxiety and rage towards Americans) who can comfort you as you whine loudly to the world about censorship and the injustice of it all.
Am, I American? No. Are you a prejudiced self-justifying whiner? Yes.
"Look at that" simply tries to change the subject. The issue was calling someone a "holocaust denier" and then blocking their refutation of this charge.
Anyway, this "Look at that" person seems to have a lot of time to spend sucking up to Johnson by defending his honour. You know, ot wont stop him banning you sometime over something.
I have OTHER things to do, loke go to bed, and so shall be leving after this.
Unless it can yap back in the next few minutes.
Crikey, "Look At That", well chosen moniker, he needs to be tucked up in a safe place I reckon. Anyone else agree?
Where does he get this "rage against Americans". My brother is an American! But that doesnt legitimise someone ( ie, a Yank ) talking about something he knows nothing about ( ie, UK council elections ). Nor does it alter the fact that the Englisgh DO regard Americans as loud, meddling, foolish buffoons. As illustrated in "Little Britain USA". Look At That , you are repeating the same "category error" as Johnson did, because I state as a fact that most Englishmen have a visceral contempt for Americans, that doesnt mean that I do! As I said the first time, I suppress this aspect of my upbringing as an Englishman. But its people like Johnson, and you, who test that self restraint.
"Look At That". Are You a nutter. YES. OBVIOUSLY. Like, everyone can see that!
On the one hand, this guy lives and breathes UK politics and has to live with the outcome.
And on the other hand, medusa read some stuff and knows everything about it.
Case closed.
/sarc
On the one hand, more more gullible twit who thinks I'm someone else. On the other hand, the argument that legitimising racism and fascism is somehow not contemptible.
Oops. Forgot where I was. They are the same hand: fascist tools and gullible twits. Not much to choose between them, and all whining about not being able to parade on someone else's blog.
I haven't had so much fun in a while.
posted by rainydayweather:
look at that opined:
"On the other hand, if you are dumb enough to be indifferent to the teaching of unmitigated codwallop posing as science in the classroom, then perhaps you are also foolish enough to entertain me further."
"Unmitigated codwallop" is already posting as science in American class rooms, and it's called 'Macro Evolution.'
I don't care if I.D. or Creationism are taught in American schools or not - I even said so at LGF.
Not feeling strongly on an issue does not make one "dumb."
You're still annoying, and I am still hoping that you go back to LGF.
Oh good. A creationist!
So tell me, do you beleive in talking snakes, and packing the terrestrial biota of the world into a wooden boat? If you swallow that as legitimate history, yes, that's dumb, don't care how strong your "feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelings" are. Only a self absorbed narcissit conflates "feeeeeeeeeeelings" with scientific validity.
Since MacroEvolution is codswallop, maybe you can tell me: how else do you explain the twin nested hierarchy of life? This should be good. Provide evidence.
posted by rainydayweather:
look at that said:
"Oh good. A creationist!"
I didn't say anything in my last post about whether or not I am a "creationist."
Nor do I care if you accept or reject creationism yourself. You only assume I care. I don't.
Look at that said:
"So tell me, do you beleive in talking snakes, and packing the terrestrial biota of the world into a wooden boat? If you swallow that as legitimate history, yes, that's dumb, don't care how strong your "feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelings" are. Only a self absorbed narcissit conflates "feeeeeeeeeeelings" with scientific validity."
I never said one way or another if I take the stories in Genesis as literal or not. I do not care if you take them literally or not.
I also never expressed a desire to debate or argue about Macro Evolution.
I do think that people should be allowed to debate Macro Evolution, question it, and criticize it in public schools - and even at Johnson's LGF blog.
However, those who do criticize Macro Evolution at LGF get banned for it, and some of them are insulted, called "dumb" and so forth.
You changed the topic: it went from saying that I am dumb for not having a strong opinion on a topic to then calling me dumb over a completely other topic (e.g., Noah's Ark etc). I didn't mention Noah's Ark or anything of that nature. You're the one who brought that up.
But again, just because someone does not have a passionate opinion about a subject does not make that person "dumb."
So you don't care whether or not talking snakes are taught as science?
OK, sorry: indifference of that magnitude is complete stupidity. Children need to be taught what is considered reasonable science and what is not. There IS no viable scientific alternative to macroevolution: do you realise that even most ID theorists explicitly embrace the notion?
If you are indifferent to creationism being taught, that means you are indifferent to the story of the Ark, and talking snakes being taught as science. That's moronic. Its an embarassment to the United States that its citizens could be either so utterly indifferent to the basics of empirical science, or such gullible fools that they think ID or creationism might be reasonably taught in science class.
I note you declined to justify your position on macroevolution being codswallop. Gullible AND cowardly. No wonder you find me annoying.
It is amusing that someone complaining about censorship should so ardently wish that I stop expressing myself here.
Charles' LGF womb is a Cult of Personality. With Sharmuta and the rest of the whore harem constantly stroking his inflated ego, he's safe from all harm.
We should start a pool to guess what goofball theme he'll harp on next.
RINOs are NOT RINOs unless I say so!
Faux Conservatism milking 9/11; so yesterday -- The Real Charles is back!
Ed mahmoud: from over the Navy's barrel to over the hill.
Realwest: fifth remission or fifth rest-ring.
Leave your God at the Login!!!
Realwest: fifth remission or fifth rest-ring?
Anon said
"If you have a problem with CJ then I suggest that you act like a grownup and take it to him personally, instead of whining endlessly about him on any forum that will give you a voice."
Uh, because Charles would then only tell his version of the conversation (read epic battle to save mankind) on his blog. BTW, reading ahead... he valiantly won the battle with his singular amazing wit, logic and blistering put downs. Tah Dah!!!
Uh, because Charles would then only tell his version of the conversation (read epic battle to save mankind) on his blog. BTW, reading ahead... he valiantly won the battle with his singular amazing wit, logic and blistering put downs. Tah Dah!!!
Oh and heaven forfend that a guy you have never met should post something about an anonymous person he argued with on the internet. It would make SUCH a difference! No, far better to crab and whine in an even MORE insignificant corner about the injustice of it all.....
Do youg guys ever listen to yourselves? This is comedy gold. Get lives!
And then "look at that" refreshed its comment window tab gleefully awaiting its next snarky stab at the commenters that have been stomping its ego all night long and found the audience bored.
lookydere
You (obviously) miss the point. Chas is dishonest, and so going to him offline, man-to-man is useless. He's got the microphone.
You (obviously) miss the point. Chas is dishonest, and so going to him offline, man-to-man is useless. He's got the microphone.
And whinging about it elsewhere is just so much more useful!
LOL! You guys kill me. Help help, my ego is being stomped!
This is really funny. What a pack of deluded, pathetic lunatics. each one of you guys, so hopelessly anxious and vulnerable to the simplest of trollings.....Its like watching a train wreck....It really matters to you....LOL!
Lookydere
Your Master and his whores are so proud of you, Leezard Warrior!
Don't forget the tip jar...
This is really funny. What a pack of deluded, pathetic lunatics. each one of you guys, so hopelessly anxious and vulnerable to the simplest of trollings.....Its like watching a train wreck....It really matters to you....LOL! - "Look At That," apparently obsessed enough to think a comment thread is a chat room, for the past 11 hours.
There are a few, small, little known blogs too. We also contribute; we poke a stick in Islam's eye, sometimes even more forcefully the well known blogs. For instance: Go Burn With Muhammad
http://totheulama.wordpress.com
Charles compares the Christian Right to Jihadists. Clearly, that's an attack on Christians with blatant lies and comparisons to the worst monsters on this planet.
Now Charles is attacking social conservatives, blaming them for McCains loss and for hurting Republicans.
Of course, most socons are Christians.
Starting to see a pattern here?
If not, then you aren't paying attention, LGFers.
And perhaps one LGFer, just one, can explain why Charles bans folks for down-dinging his comments, or up-dinger a comment Charles doesn't like, or linking to some that links to someone that Charles hates.
And Charles exxagerates, lies and demonizes those he doesn't like, such as calling Mr. Spencer a supporter of neo-nazi's and supporting genocide. Blatant lies for anyone who has the guts to read Mr. Spencer's books or blog.
Unhinged paranoid barely begins to describe Charles' behavior.
Is Charles an asshat?
You betcha!
PS- And for the record, I was never banned from LGF, I asked for my membership to be removed because I can't stomach deceitful liars like Johnson.
Blazing Cat Fur: Have the poll thingies stopped working?
To those who have asked such as Josephine the polls are still working but will close Thursday Nov 20th, the winners will be announced Friday.
Thank you all for your participation.
Thank you!
I'm just looking in as an outsider. Not affiliated w/ either of you 2 with the beef. But minimizing nazi's to further your 'anti jihad movement'? That's going in the wrong direction in my book.
I apologize for making this statement. Didn't have a lot of information myself on this topic. I think everybody should make up. All seem to be good people with their hearts in the right place.
Oh Look at that....I popped in to see if you had anything more to say. I see you didn't.
You really got to show your true colours didn't you. Some chap mentions the BNP and CJ threw him out, and then you get a proper perspective on them from somebody who is actually eligible to vote in the UK and you go off like a demented harpy. Why?, 'cos Nancy told you so. You've been fed your own faeces for so long you don't even realise what you've become.
And you are still obsessed with this 'censorship' thing. Nancy starts whining and sends you over here telling you boo hoo...look they're saying I'm a censor, and you come over like Joan of Arc, projecting this preprogrammed grievance because that's what you were told. Take a look...It also says ass hat. That's why a lot of people are here. If you hadn't surrendered your own will for the privilege of being able to type ROPMA at LGF you'd have seen that.
As for the rest of you. Charles doesn't like anyone at that blog who is smarter than him. It's a badge of honour to be banned. The most pathetic individuals are the ones who feel they have to limbo under the IQ bar in order to keep their account. (Look at that, I wasn't talking about you).
And to the guys at LGF2 who question CJs musical abilities. Well, not entirely true. When CAIR send the FBI to his house he can actually sing like a canary.
Bweep
Re: Look at that.
I noticed that you posted on LGF (yeah, I still read sometimes) that Charles had not banned anyone who didn't deserve it (actually, it was realwest... is that you?). Well, search for my name for an example, although I'm sure there are several others. Look at the actual page where I was banned. It will be my latest entries. In a nutshell, let me tell you what happened:
On several of the ID threads, I maintained the position that evolutionary theory is not complete. Even if it were more complete, no scientific idea is above questioning. To make a theory above discussion opens doors to make other "theories" like global warming, also above question and leaves our kids captive audiences to whatever else school board administrators think our kids should learn. Charles accused me of working for The Discovery Institute. As if I signed up for LGF in 2004 just in case he ever went after ID. When I said that I was not an employee of DI (I do Internet Banking for a living), he called me a liar, said he would not tolerate dishonesty and banned me. So he accused me of something I'm not, and when I honestly refuted it, I was banned. Immediately after the ban, at least one other member said, "Why was he banned? This is BS, please remove my membership as I no longer want to be a part of this." He was banned also.
Fair? If you think so.
Dearest Medusa
Did the blog fall in the right hands yet? (quoting your other nic 'highrise'?
/it fell into something
Wow, the lying that is being done on this thread by many of the banned and resentful is just... unbelievable.
You know what? I was present at LGF for most if not ALL of the bannings being discussed here and I can tell you that in every single instance, it was warranted.
Some of the deceitful and dishonest people here are behaving like guiltless martyrs when they know EXACTLY why they were banned at LFG.
A good many of you were decent to CJ to his face over on LGF, and then went to other blogs to publicly post HORRIBLE things about the man or lend your support to those that were doing so.
You were banned at LGF for this reason, and rightly so.
Babbazee is a good example. For some odd reason she doesn't allow anyone on her blog to criticize Mr. Johnson, but she doesn't even hesitate to bitch about him elsewhere and laugh and giggle with the like-minded. It's the worst sort of vile hypocrisy, and she encourages her sycophants to be just as dishonest as she is. "Sick" is an understatement.
The public assertion that many make here, is that Mr. Johnson is a dummy. I can assure readers who aren't familiar with Mr. Johnson and his work that he is FAR from being a dummy, he knows exactly how to trace comments made by deceitful liars, fascists and mobys on his website directly to the source and he knows what to do with the people who make them.
Mr. Johnson is a man of integrity, and he's an extremely vigilant and dedicated moderator who personally monitors thousands and thousands of posts every single day over at LGF. He does this because he is determined to keep the trash out. He's a rarity in this day and age, and he should be applauded for his hard work and vigilance, not vilified.
It should be obvious by now to anyone reading this thread, the character deficiencies and obsessive anti-authority attitudes represented by most if not all of the obsessive people here who claim to have been banned at LGF.
Here's the truth about Mr. Johnson.
Charles has been an ever-vigilant LONG TIME friend to - and tireless supporter and advocate of - the anti-jihad movement. He is a man of good character, principal and integrity who is a great friend to Israel.
He does what he does because he understands that is is CRITICAL that we not link the anti-jihad movement here in the West to FASCISM, if it is going to survive.
Robert Spencer OF ALL PEOPLE should understand this.
His ego-drenched complaints about Mr. Johnson and his childish behavior on this blog (in Mr. Johnsons' absence, mind) are profoundly disturbing, petty and disgusting. This is not how intelligent, like-minded adults should be behaving, Mr. Spencer and I now find myself questioning both your morality AND your character.
If I am wrong then I invite you to prove it by contacting Charles Johnson directly with your concerns, instead of publicly trashing him on blogs like this one. You still have an active registration at LGF and you can publicly converse with him there if you so desire. You also know how to contact him privately. So you have absolutely NO excuse for not resolving this matter with him in a mature and honorable way.
Act like an intelligent adult, or continue to act like a needy, attention-starved adolescent... your choice, sir.
To the owner of this blog:
Listing Mr. Johnsons' name on the above poll next to some of those other names is a absolute DISGRACE.
And you know it.
You know what? I was present at LGF for most if not ALL of the bannings being discussed here and I can tell you that in every single instance, it was warranted.
You need serious help.
I see Sharmuta is here, personally attesting to Charles' integrity and smearing Robert as usual.
Sharmuta, are you Charles' mother?
To ANGER a Conservative tell him a lie, To ANGER a liberal tell him the TRUTH.
Interestingly, this was posted at LGF...
I see Sharmuta is here, personally attesting to Charles' integrity....No that's karmic inquisitor. He writes shit like that. He believes it too. Poor bastard.
Anyway he's seriously off message. He was told to come here and say whining, whining, whining. Here you are. This is what CJ wrote.
'Censored' Yet Somehow Still Whining
People banned from LGF for supporting fascists and/or being hostile obsessive jerks whine endlessly about being “censored” (with no sense of irony whatsoever) as the Infidel Blogger Awards nominates me for “Biggest Pro-Censorship Ass-Hat.” Apparently, speaking out against Eurofascists, and not letting the LGF comments pages turn into a racist cesspool makes me as bad as or worse than the Canadian Human Rights Commission and Mohammed Elmasry, in their strange little world of “anti-jihad” make believe.
'Look at that' was at least trying to follow orders. Unless it was actually Charles.
BTW: This is arguing. Whining is more putting a bleating thread on your members only blog and cowering in the comments section with your toadies.
Bweep
Charles has been an ever-vigilant LONG TIME friend to - and tireless supporter and advocate of - the anti-jihad movement. He is a man of good character, principal and integrity
Ha! He can't admit even the slightest or the most obvious mistake - and you call that 'integrity'?
who is a great friend to Israel.
Now, that's useful. As is the Vlaams Belang.
He does what he does because he understands that is is CRITICAL that we not link the anti-jihad movement here in the West to FASCISM, if it is going to survive.
Since political Islam is a reincarnation of fascism, that would indeed be a stupid and self-defeating thing to do.
Seeing that the actual neo-Nazis of Germany embrace Islam and Jihad, and detest those who make alliances with Israel or Jews, it should be fairly easy to figure this one out.
Except in the twisted mind of CJ, who chooses to see fascists anywhere he encounters something he can't understand. Stuff like European conservatives insisting on being in charge of their own countries.
With friends like this, we'd hardly need enemies...
Darn it. I hung out with the family, and watched some TV, and forgot to get on the home computer and vote again for Chuckles the Dancing Clown.
BTW, while I did drink heavily, basically everywhere but South America and Antarctica, there were weeks at a time, when we were at sea in the North Arabian Sea, where I consumed no alcohol at all.
And, in the famous words of the Jewish sage David Lee Roth (and I do have a small amount of Jewish ancestry) I don't feel strike tardy /strike like a Nazi.
Ack, the page won't except 'strike'!
The point is not to bash Charles. He does some good things and LGF was not a bad forum at one point. The problem is that Charles has gotten a bit conceited and absolute. You either agree with him on 100% of the issues or you are an outcast, deserving of ridicule and slander, soon to be banned. His minions are only too happy to jump on the bandwagon. He has the same mindset that libs have toward Joe Lieberman. Charles acts the same way. If you disagree with him on any single issue, say, the Obama birth certificate for example, you are banned, belittled and bashed, even if you agree on every single other issue. There is absolutely no middle ground. Another example would be Ben Stein. Here is a brilliant conservative with great ideas. He was thrown under the LGF bus for his movie Expelled. The rest of his contributions to the conservative cause are discarded along with him.
The second you are on his out list, he begins to discredit you. He will say something about you that is not true. When you deny it, he says, "See, he's a liar too!" Here is an example of something Charles said:
Yes, there is a lesson: lie about your reasons for posting here, and pretend to be something you are not, and you'll lose your account.
There is no way that Charles can know who someone truly is or why they are posting. He makes something up about a member and then bans them for denying it. There it is, in black and white, proving that the integrity that the anonymous user posted (Sharmuta) doesn't exist any more.
Charles has ruined his own blog, and turned it into an echo chamber where the only ones left are either Chuckie clones or don't have the guts to speak out.
accept, not except.
Is Karmic Inquisitor a new nic for the disappeared Highrise? She used to lecture everyone about Charles' integrity until she was suddenly gone.
Stabbing Robert Spencer in the back and then whining when he responds is not a sign of integrity.
Looky-Loo was Medaura possibly using quotes from LGF ID posts by Salamantis ('feeeeelings').
No, Highrise was more like Sharmuta. She only knew about eight hundred words. karmic inquisitor is more like Pastorious. They know thousands of ways to say very little, which is invariably wrong.
Bweep
I miss the good old days, before Charles started tweaking again, doing the meth. No doubt something he picked up while touring with Al Jarreau. He must have been a good blues guitarist once. Anyone seen the U-Tube video of a recent Van Halen concert? Sounds like Eddie's guitar is broken. Heavy drug and alcohol use, turned what must have been one of the ten best rock guitarists ever into a guy that wouldn't pass auditions for a 'Poison' cover band.
Charles had 'mad skilz' on the programming side as well. He worked for Atari, for goodness sakes. I always had hell getting my Fortran and Paschal programs to even compile.
WE used to have great times. The Friday night drinking threads were awesome. A lot of smart people. Fjordman, Buckeye Abroad. People from the UK, Israel. Thailand. Christians, Jews and Bah'ai. Many different viewpoints, but all with a sense of humor, and a determination to oppose jihadi terrorism.
Than Chuckles started tweaking again. Got all paranoid. First pulled his Captain Queeg act when people demanded he do something about American Infidel and her demand that the US deport American born citizens simply for having been born to Muslim parents, her ideas about automated machine gun nests on the Rio Grande to kill any Mexican who comes to close. Her insistence that a USAF EOD tech who sometimes worked with the USSS was lying. He banned all who complained.
Than the missing strawberries became six degree of separation type links to possible neo-Nazis.
Now he clinks his little steel balls over anyone of any religious faith suggesting that it is at least possible a Divine power might have had some involvement with the fact people are here.
The paranoia, nobody can post or link to 'enemy blogs'. He banned a Jewish poster from 'Discarded Lies' (before banning all the posters of 'Discarded Lies) for being a Nazi.
I'm thinking he is back on the meth. His teeth will start falling out, and he'll soon lose all the extra weight we've seen on recent pictures.
And one more thing:
The people here who are whining about being banned because Charles "hates Christians" are beyond contempt. He does nothing of the sort.
I'm a Christian and I often post about my faith at LGF but have never had a problem with Charles because I refrain from pissy, knee-jerk hyperdefensive responses to ID comments.
Charles has very little patience with people who try to tell him what he can or cannot post on his own personal blog, and he SHOULD. It's HIS blog, for heavens sake. His registrants are guests there and they have no business telling him to post or not post ANYTHING.
Most if not all of the "pious banned" either tried to tell Charles what he should or shouldn't post, gave him a bowl full of bile for thinking what he thinks about the Discovery Institute, or posted obsessively for weeks and months on end about Charles' non-existent "anti-Christian bigotry". A good number of these people were documented shills for the Discovery Institute. Many of the others were angry that Charles allows what they call "militant" atheists to post at LGF and demanded that Charles censure them, which he refused to do.
These folks are the most demanding, incessant whiners that I've ever seen in a public forum. They've taken gross liberties with Charles' hospitality over at LGF, but I can attest to the fact that his patience with these contentious people has been long, even in the face of frank hostility and personal insult.
He's taken a lot more flak and bullshit from these people than he should ever have had to take, and to his credit he waiting a long time before finally deciding that enough was enough.
These glorious Christian martyrs then went elsewhere to trash Charles Johnson, the "lost" over at LGF, and prop themselves up with pious, self-preening diatribes. They declare themselves to be misunderstood, put-upon Christian warriors who are fighting a battle with "Stan". They believe that they will be personally vindicated by a righteous God for taking on the "anti-Christian haters and militant atheists" at LGF.
It's beyond pathetic.
Who documents the people that are 'documented shills' for the Discovery Network.
I thought the Discovery Network was Channel 29 on my Comcast cable and had on that hot chick in the tight t-shirts blowing things up with the dorky guys on "Mythbusters".
Oh, Discovery Institute.
No idea who they are, but if they have hot chicks in tight t-shirts firing guns and exploding things, I'd like to register as a shill please.
I'm shilling for the Discovery Institute and the chick in the tight t-shirts.
Re: One more thing:
Can you show me the "documentation" that shows someone to be a shill for the Discovery Institute. I ask because I was one of those accused of being a "shill" and then banned for denying it. I had never heard of DI before he brought it up, and yet I was accused of being on their payroll. I'm still waiting for those checks to come in.
Also, I might add that being a supposed "shill" for DI does not mean that you are a Euro-fascist, which is the reason he uses for banning members.
These glorious Christian martyrs then went elsewhere to trash Charles Johnson, the "lost" over at LGF, and prop themselves up with pious, self-preening diatribes. They declare themselves to be misunderstood, put-upon Christian warriors who are fighting a battle with "Stan". They believe that they will be personally vindicated by a righteous God for taking on the "anti-Christian haters and militant atheists" at LGF.
Does the head ball-washer, Kilgore Trout, grace us, as it were, with his presence?
Too bad the Defenders of Chuckles are scared to use their LGF nics...
Ed, you twit, you should know better. You were one of those who thought it funny to repost items over at GCP so they could poke fun at them while you defamed Charles over there. What, did you think it OK to have one face at LGF, and another at GCP? Foolish, IMHO.
I did enjoy your weather reports though.
Kilgore, you sperm slurping butt pirate, I reposted a single LGF entry, the one I knew would get me banned from LGF.
The one pointing out the rank hypocrisy of criticizing 'Fjordman' for posting under an alias, as some kind of coward, when he faced Euro hate speech laws and actual jihadis. Again, note Chuckles has no issue with Zombie protecting his or her identity, nor do I.
Now get back to LGF, Chuckles lower bowel is starting to feel empty without your nose up it.
A good number of these people were documented shills for the Discovery Institute.
Disingenuous much? (I thought I would pick a word I know you understand Sharmuta)
Documented?
Charles posting it doesn't make it documented you neurotic mrs. j wannabe.
Mr Charles "Don't criticize evolution or you are banned" Johnson doesn't like to be teamed with dhimmis.
Mats
Anonymous, so-called 'ad hominem' attacks, such as He's merely a oundit, and poor writer at that., are generally frowned upon in the civilized part of the blogosphere (I don't think that'd include LGF - sorry 'bout it). It is, in classical rethoric, considered a void argument not to be taken seriously, and hardly worthy of a counter-argument.
If you have any issues with the essays of Fjordman, I suggest you take them up in context, like where they are posted, and address your dissatisfaction there, rather than using your dissatisfaction to denigrate people you probably didn't even meet in person.
It's a question of courtesy. Thank you.
Charles posting it doesn't make it documented
Oh it does. It's like the documented hate mail he gets from bitter, banned posters and closet Nazis. It's all documented. He has to summarise it of course....you know.....Tell you what was said...It's so much easier than cutting and pasting the original. But there you are. documented fair and square.
Unless and until you man up and use your LGF nic, I'll feel free to assume, based on style, that you are indeed Kilgore. I mean, if you are Sharmuta, your head is still so far inside Chuckles large intestine that your cells are now sulphur reducing, so same difference.
You are a flaming moron if you don't think 'Fjordman' has to worry about hate speech laws.
'Suicide by Cop'? I'm not dead, and posting at blogs where it is still worthwhile posting. I just chose the day of my banning from a blog headed into an intellectual toilet. Unlike, say, Sarah D, banned several days after her last post, during a blackout, or Reaganite, banned several months after his last post. Or the people unfortunate enough (actually, fortunate enough, I guess) to get banned for doing LGF searches for banned posters to see what got them banned.
Nope, once every few weeks I like to mock The Nancy, because Nancy, aka Chuckles, can't stand to be mocked (thank you, Martin Luther!), but I ignore you and other members of his pathetic klown serkus for weeks at a time, really.
lol
Charles posting it doesn't make it documented
Oh it does.
That was a good one. And now it is documented that you are a loon.
And STILL the pinheads try to pin a name on me. If I think they are idiotic, well, that PROVES I must be who they think I am.
What a pack of anxious, paranoid deluded clowns. No, I'm not any of the people you think I am. I've told you I'm a troll, and you are STILL falling all over yourselves to pin a name on me, presumably so you can feel better about being told a frank opinion of your capacities. Oh! Oh! You are hurting my EGO again!
Talk about projection......
LOL! It is ridiculously easy to change prose styles, and I'm not even trying very hard.
Dear assorted dummies: you are all wrong about who I am. Moreover, it doesn't MATTER who I am: you would STILL be whining dummies even if you WERE right. The fact that you are cluelessly insisting that I must be some sort of slave obeying orders only highlights your paranoia, and illustrates the poverty of your thought.
Get lives! You are being trolled! I've TOLD you that I'm trolling you and STILL you rise to the bait.
Amazingly stupid people here.
That's called "profile suicide by cop", and you know it.
Only if you first accept that Charles Johnson has a right to decide where else you are allowed to go on the Internet, and with whom you can associate. Who you are allowed to have on your blogroll etc. No normal person would accept that.
Bweep
Charles banned a whole slew of people long before the whole "neo-nazi" nonsense, so his heroic activities in opposing the neo-nazis under our beds has nothing to do with him leading the censorship pack.
If every single banning was "well-deserved", perhaps you can explain why I was banned for entering the term "EW-1" into the comment search box? I had never posted anything challenging Charles or, heck, anything that could have even been considered controversial! I know several other long-term folks who were banned from his site for simply entering terms or nics that Chaz didn't like in the comment search box, or having the temerity to post at a blog Charles didn't like, or anything else he perceived as somehow being disrespectful to him. A fairly accurate example of a meglo-maniac.
Oh, and banning people from his blog is NOTHING like asking jerks to leave your own personal living room. He set up his blog, INVITED the public in to read, comment, post, etc, then sold ad space on the site in order to make money off of his clicks/traffic!
Its far more like someone setting up an open outdoor gathering, being paid for the number of people they get to show up and then going around labeling everyone who is not wearing blue an enemy of the "group" and "frog-marching" them off the premises!
He may just receive a very well-deserved "honor".
Where have I claimed to be a martyr, by the way.
BTW, is Sharmuta agreeing with Sharmuta, Kilgore agreeing with Kilgore, 'realwest', scared to use his real nic anymore for fear someone will ask about his father that supposedly died running into the WTC past cops and firefighters to rescue the trapped, or has Chuckles actually dispatched the minions to defend him?
How come Nancy can't leave his own blog and argue anywhere else?
How pathetic must it be to be so lonely that one won't parachute off the flaming plane crash that is LGF. Heck, it has crashed already, the cabin is filling with toxic vapors. How pathetic the passengers are so scared of the outside world they need the pilot, trapped in the wreckage (I'm still guessing meth), for company.
Sad.
Quick question: This comment section is too long, and I'm offended by long things. Can I sue Blazing Cat Fur lady for this under section 13.1?
'Cause I could use some money...
I say Blazing Cat Fur lady needs an award for having the backbone to put Charles on the list for pro-censorship ass hat.
He does, and he is.
Well Ed, you've just proved beyond a doubt to anyone reading here that you're a world class jerk.
Narcissists are by nature control freaks, Ed.
It just drives you and your cronies NUTS that you can't identify and control the anonymous people here who are calling your bullshit, doesn't it?
Sooo... have you emailed the blog owner yet, demanding the IP addies of your anonymous detractors?
I have cronies?
That's it 'Look at that' ..Whining Whining...more with the Whining...That's what CJ told you to say ...more of that...What else did he say
and not letting the LGF comments pages turn into a racist cesspool
Hmmmm..You can't really go with that can you, Can't really call us racists 'cos by CJ's own definition it means he's lost the argument.
No stick with 'Whining' bit for now. Don't deviate from the script. We wouldn't want you to start thinking for yourself. Maybe Charles will give you another word today when he starts another thread whining about this one....Er no, I mean, showing his righteous indignation at this one.
You're busted.
Bweep
How pathetic must it be to be so lonely that one won't parachute off the flaming plane crash that is LGF.
They don't have anything else.
Now some are risking their own integrity by denying the things that people saw with their own eyes.
You are a flaming moron if you don't think 'Fjordman' has to worry about hate speech laws.
While Norway is technically not a member of the European Union, it is indeed a problem. All kinds of stigmata could creep in, like losing his job or similar, if he used his real name for what he writes. It's not only the EU 'Framework Decision on Racism and Xenophobia' he might be at odds with, it's also the prevailing PC climate where anything controversial said can get you in a lot of trouble. I met Fjordman in person and discussed the current and potential problems.
But then, the EU stuff is particular annoying, for the European Union has a great deal of goodwill among people who haven't examined its roots and purpose. Currently, being target of suspected 'racism' is a sure path towards losing your citizens' rights in several European countries. Belgium is the worst, but Sweden, Germany, Netherlands and Britain aren't faring well, either.
Czechs coming to Western Europe wonder at the situation - it's similar to what their fathers told them about the time of the Soviet Union. Neither the European Union nor our nation-states are willing to take risks to defend our civil liberties, and thus the problem is being relegated to small, private organisations such as the (quite successful) Danish Free Press Society.
We have reason to worry. Sorry 'bout it.
Ed, I don't feel the narcissistic need to have everyone know who I am. I don't have narcissistic need to change my nic and sport many names either. We have to driving you bonkers as you are trying to identify us. BTW, I am not Kilgore, nor Sharmuta. Neither am I realwest, nor am I Charles (as you so fondly slur him, "Chuckles the dancing clown").
I could care less about your plight, being banned from a blog. What a life, to be worried about being banned from a blog, and then bitching about it from Gates of Vienna to Gulf Coast Pundit. Surely you must have better things to accomplish in your life than to whine about being banned from a blog.
As for you, Bweep. I've seen your tripe at Nodrog's Greatest Hits. It's not where you commented, it's what you said. The sooner you learn that, the better off you'd be. But, of course, then you'd have little to whine about. So, in honor of that, have some cheese-whiz.
Ed, I don't feel the narcissistic need to have everyone know who I am. I don't have narcissistic need to change my nic and sport many names either.
Uh, no. You are afraid to you use your LGF nic because you know you'll get banned. Doesn't that kinda prove the whole point that Charles deserves his ass-hat award?
No, ArcherB, it's more fun watching you guys guess who we are than anything else. It's mildly amusing, and makes for a mildly fun diversion from our otherwise boring day.
Pardon me whilst I yawn and chuckle at you guys pathetically whining about Charles and LGF. Go and enjoy the fascists and anti-intellectual nuts who are little different than the socialists and the jihadis.
BIG JOHNSON IS RIPPING US OFF!
Pardon me whilst I yawn and chuckle at you guys pathetically whining about Charles and LGF. Go and enjoy the fascists and anti-intellectual nuts who are little different than the socialists and the jihadis.
Right. More of Charlie's talking points. Did you not see the posts from people who were banned for reasons other than being a "racist" or "fascist"? That was Charles' excuse for banning them, but I quoted him directly where he said, and I quote again:
"Yes, there is a lesson: lie about your reasons for posting here, and pretend to be something you are not, and you'll lose your account.
Funny, there is nothing in there about a being a fascist or racist. If you'd like the link to it, I will provide. I understand if you are afraid to search for it as it might get you banned.
Stop making fun of Charles Johnson!
You people should take back every nasty thing you've said about him.
If I could I would sooooo ding your comments down!
No stick with 'Whining' bit for now. Don't deviate from the script. We wouldn't want you to start thinking for yourself. Maybe Charles will give you another word today when he starts another thread whining about this one....Er no, I mean, showing his righteous indignation at this one.
Why stick with just "whining"? I have lots of other ones for you in particular, including "pathetically predictable", "easily manipulated" and "frankly delusional", not to mention "likes to hang out with fascists and religious wingnuts".
You really can't understand that just about anyone ANYONE looking at this place would thing "what a pathetic bunch of loserrs!". No no, I have to be Medusa, or whoever....
LOL! And STILL you can't stop yourself from replying to the troll!
The people that Charles enjoys bashing, such as those of the Vlaams Belang, generally have an intellectual level beyond the grasp of CJ.
Further, they're not socialists, fascists or anything of that kind, they're Conservatives.
As for dinging comments down, this is one of the things that CJ bans people for - showing approval at comments that sets the ideas of the Lizard King in doubt.
It's messy, and certainly not worthy of respect.
Peacekeeper said...
BIG JOHNSON IS RIPPING US OFF!
LOL!
He's going to win this thing ( 8 )
TA DA! Go Charlie!
Charles Johnson's problem. Meth abuse.
LOL! And STILL you can't stop yourself from replying to the troll!
Ah yes. Classic LGF puritan loon. You decided that when I said I wouldn't be back, that meant I was leaving immediately and would not come back and answer you. Which of course is bollocks. Now you decide that since I choose to answer you on this thread then it's some fundamental weakness on my part. Go on, I'm a poor sad loser for following a thread on a blog. Remember, it's you that's one of the inmates at LGF.
I have lots of other ones for you in particular,...
None of which you can justify to any standard of proof that would satisfy anyone except a Charles Johnson acolyte.
Bweep. I've seen your tripe at Nodrog's Greatest Hits. It's not where you commented, it's what you said.
My tripe at Gordon's blog. Not much, but some of it's pure gold. BTW: DID YOU HEAR THAT EVERYBODY. BWEEP BLOGS AT GORDON'S. Go on. Shout all you like. This isn't LGF. Gordon backs up what he says. He's right about a lot of things. There's nobody here going to swallow your guilt by association twaddle. Too many have been smeared themselves. If I wasn't prepared to stand by what I wrote there, I'd have used a different nic. "It's not where you commented" Oh I suspect it is. It would certainly be enough for most of you.
.. then you'd have little to whine about.
Was that you too 'Look at that'. Or did someone else turn up to the party with another bottle of Charles Johnson's whine. It's getting tiresome. Can one of you run back to the Star Chamber and find out what else I've been found guilty of. Then maybe you'd be good enough to come back and tell me.
Bweep
LOL! You win Bweep!
Ah well, the amusement pales.
Ah yes. Classic LGF puritan loon. You decided that when I said I wouldn't be back, that meant I was leaving immediately and would not come back and answer you. Which of course is bollocks.
No, you said you probaly wouldn't be back. I then told you that you certainly would be back, and here you are, so yes:
Now you decide that since I choose to answer you on this thread then it's some fundamental weakness on my part.
The fact that I can predct your behavior better than you can, and I'm a complete stranger who never exchanged posts with you inthe past, means yes, you ARE a pathetically predictable, easily manipulated fool.
Go on, I'm a poor sad loser for following a thread on a blog.
You are a poor sad loser for being so easily trolled. I've been posting nothing but opinions about you, and you feel compelled to answer them, even when I TELL you I'm a troll. Yes: poor sad loser, who feels compelled to justify himself to a perfectly obnoxious troll.
Can I justify that to any standard of proof? I don't HAVE too. I'm leading you around by your nose. YOU are providing the justification. Dang, its like clubbing baby seals. I give up. What a silly fool.
Bye now. I won't comment here again for a long while, if ever.
Simpleton.
ArcherB said...
"Uh, no. You are afraid to you[sic] use your LGF nic because you know you'll get banned."
I seriously doubt that. CJ is an asshat for blocking discussions on GoV, Brussells Journal and JihadWatch, but he's not goofy enough to ban people who say things he disagrees with on other blogs.
FWIW, this is my name on LGF, though I don't go there much anymore and never comment anymore. Charles' attacks on The Gates of Vienna were too much for me.
It's almost like CJ WANTS to end islamofascism, but will only accept magic as the way to combat it. Any other method employed is racist to him.
Hmmm, on the topic of Fjordman and concern about EU thought-crime laws, and how Chuckles mocks Fjordman for posting with an alias..
Vlaams Leader stripped of EU Immunity, can now be prosecuted for thought-crime (link to Chuckles Serkus)
Censorship that Chuckles the Dancing Clown approves of, obviously.
"And I am equally free to point out that he is a thin skinned little nancy, sensitive to the smallest perceived insults, who uses six degree of separation type relationships to claim people are closet Nazis."
I de linked LGF when they went after GOV, I'm sure the hit every 3rd month is bearable but for him to turn on another blogger like that seemed untoward. I haven't been there much since January me thinks. Who did Charles want to win the republican nomination I wonder. Not enough to go to LGF since January but, I wonder.
the Inet's a big place with lots of ponds to visit.
Like I said earlier LGF sees there's a problem with islamization but doesn't want to actually stop it.
Why complain about a problem you are determined that you don't want fixed? I don't understand?
My account is still active if unused.
:)
See! Now you're all not responding to me because you thought I wouldn't be back.
I'm a troll! I'm a troll!
Does anyone else notice the irony of those defending LGF would have been banned at LGF for saying the things they are saying here?
Kinda proves the point, doesn't it?
blogalog said:
CJ is an asshat for blocking discussions on GoV, Brussells Journal and JihadWatch, but he's not goofy enough to ban people who say things he disagrees with on other blogs.
November 19, 2008 2:07 PM
If only that were true, blogalog. There are many reports of exactly that on this very thread. Merely linking to a blog he disapproves of is now a banning crime. And that's just one reason why he is running away with this award.. 53% of the vote.
I got banned last night for pointing out that Charles was advertising Robert Spencer's book.
I stated that he couldn't ban his advertisers!
I was promptly banned.
He just got my vote!!
I'm a troll! I'm a troll!
We know. But we don't care what you look like.
I got banned last night for pointing out that Charles was advertising Robert Spencer's book.
Now that's funny.
LOL! I just went to lyingjackal.com because I hadn't heard of it before!
Yes The Jackal is Infamous in Canuckistan.
Oh dear...
580 realwest
11/18/08 4:44:53 pm 0
re: #545 Lynn B.
Lynne B - I’m not worried about ANY of them, especially not Ed the weatherguy - that back stabbing son of a bitch was coming here and making nice posts (although I’d guess 75% of his last posts were complaints that Charles wouldn’t let him post his multi-colored weather forecasts in only black and white) while going to an known LGF hater blog and saying really nasty shit to everyone who’d listen about Charles and several of us. He knew none of us went over there, but didn’t know that someone tipped off Charles as to what he was doing.
The only thing I owe Ed is the back of my hand and I’d be more than happy to give it to him. Same with the other loons over there.
I seem to have struck a nerve with 'realwest'. Back of his hand, my.
He claims to be a Viet Nam vet. But he also claims to have lost his father when he ran into the WTC, past police and firefighters trying to stop him, to rescue the victims.
So, if he lies about one rather important item, he may have lied about his service.
I am a real veteran, but don't claim any combat experience. I don't need to make up stories on the interweb to stroke my own ego.
But I suspect I could bitchslap him back to 1492, if I were so inclined.
I've gotta say, this thread is pretty hilarious. There's a lot more that could be said, but I'm not sure that it's worth the effort.
Still, nice to see the right guy winning the vote for a change.
Charles Johnson was never conservative anything except the WOT. He is a socialist; but he was a lot better before he got hooked on the methamphetamine. The pot was okay, but when you combine the two, it makes you paranoid.
How pathetic. Now someone's making fake posts in my fake name to pretend I'm me coming back to see what people are saying about me.
Oh, crap.
I had to post as anonymous because I couldn't remember my password, but I do have a question. Is Realwest the guy who claimed he had terminal cancer and his father was in the WTC and died getting someone out? I seem to recall that he was found out to be a first class liar. I would go under a rock and hide if I were him.
Shoot I was meaning to leave my name so realeast could threaten to backhand me to Ed! Maybe he can drive his truck down here to Texas, in between chemotherapy treatments?
jlfintx
Hi Everybody just so you know, The CHRC has been back for a visit - (actually they come to my blog every day!)
Remember these guys take names, assume false on line identities and entrap commenters - charge you with a thought crime under Section 13(1) of the Canadian Human Rights Act, then send you before the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal where even truth is not a defense!
They're watchin you!
Location:Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
IP Address:Gtis (198.103.143.130) CHRC
Entry Page Time:19th November 2008 06:26:51 PM
Blazing Cat Fur- thanks for reminding those of us south of the border what you are up against.
Just a blog pimp to you losers! As if you could ever be half of Charles's Johnson!
I became bored with the Anti ID threads at LGF and expressed this in an open thread. Imagine my surprise when CJ chastized me a couple of posts down.
Up to this point I had only one post deleted, at my request, because I had inadvertanly posted a phone number in a link.
Over the course of the next few weeks I had several posts deleted and finally, after quoting Randy Newman (?) was blocked.
Go figure.
BCF,
I think the HRC apparatchiks are going to be upset they're going to lose the Pro-Censorship Ass-Hat award. No, really. I think, contra to Ezra, that they love all the publicity that they've been getting over the past year or so. They see themselves as valiant heroes fighting hatred, racism, etc., and so does a broad swath of the Canadian left. I'm sure they would see it as a badge of honour if they "won" your award.
They're probably saying to each other right now "Who the hell is this Charles Johnson?" Then they'll say "I thought he was on their [conservatives] side." Wrong again thought police, wrong again.
BTW thanks for doing this. And thanks for including CJ.
Remember these guys take names, assume false on line identities and entrap commenters - charge you with a thought crime under Section 13(1) of the Canadian Human Rights Act, then send you before the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal where even truth is not a defense!
Is it true that the Reciprocity Provisions of the Internet Decency Act of 2006 between the United States and Canada allow for the immediate deportation of annoying Albanians (redundant, I know) to their country of origin upon initial offense? Subsection 4(f) - paragraph 3.
Ed got banned for calling Chaz out on his nic hypocrisy.
Others have been banned for more, others have been banned for less.
Some should be banned. But Chaz bans posters because he doesn't agree with their point of view, or he thinks that he will be held responsible for their comments.
I've attempted contact with him one time since my ban a year ago. It was polite, but not apologetic, and went totally unanswered. I didn't expect an answer, actually, but I had to be able to say that I did try to reach out to him. I tried being reasonable, but there is no reasoning with Chaz. It's his blog, he and others say. Fair enough. What ticks most of us off is his hypocrisy; implying that he is innocent and everyone he bans is some sort of religious nazi.
You know you've lost the argument when you call someone a nazi.
I never said any of the forbidden stuff that's, you know, forbidden to say on LGF, so I never got banned. I left of my own accord after Gagdad Bob, BabbaZee, Song and Dance Man, Storagemanager, Mama Winger, and pretty much anyone else I cared to trade notes with got kicked out. Lots of familiar nic's in this thread. Which is, in some ways, is the same story that dozens of other folks have posted. Ultimately it has all been for the good, because now I (we) can hang out with the people I enjoy trading notes with, and I don't have to put up with the frog chorus at LGF, or be worried that I'll get the boot if I put a word wrong. And it's a pretty big club these days: Those who have been banned!
LGF served its purpose for me, and for that I am grateful to both the site and its creator. It was a place to go to meet the real people I needed to meet, and to learn the real things I needed to learn. God's intelligent design for the universe works in mysterious ways. He'll even use Charles Johnson to further its purpose.
Anonymous said...
"I see Sharmuta is here, personally attesting to Charles' integrity and smearing Robert as usual.
Sharmuta, are you Charles' mother?"
And his #1 whore, she can swallow anything her widdle upChuckie puts out..
I told all you stupid people that I wouldn't be back to see what you're saying to me and now you're posting links to Medusa's blog in my fake name trying to prove I'm her when I said I'm not.
I'm a troll trying to stir you all up and get a rise out of you and instead you're trying to get a rise out of me, er, that Medusa person I'm not.
It won't work.
Much.
Damn, I hate being led by the nose.
But... but, weren't Fjordman's "racist and agonizingly long" essays and posts so often featured and applauded on Chas' vanity show?? Who changed, Fjordman or Chas?
posted by rainydayweather.
Anonymous wrote,
"I can tell you that in every single instance, it was warranted.
Some of the deceitful and dishonest people here are behaving like guiltless martyrs when they know EXACTLY why they were banned at LFG.
A good many of you were decent to CJ to his face over on LGF, and then went to other blogs to publicly post HORRIBLE things about the man or lend your support to those that were doing so."
Wrong! I was not told why I was banned, nor was I given any warning beforehand that I might be banned.
If you back up the page you can see where I explained that I never criticized Charles Johnson until AFTER I was banned.
I can only assume I was banned for posting in links to sites that are anti-Darwinism, since those were the only posts I made in the last month or two I was at LGF.
And before that, I had not posted to LGF for several weeks or a few months.
I was never one to post there much anyway. I just liked reading the headlines on the front page.
So don't sit there and tell us that each and every single banning was justified, fair, or reasonable.
A few years ago AP did a poll on the worst villain. Bush won with 25%, bin Laden came second. That proved that half of the Liberals are fucking retards. What does the fact that LGF leads Elmasry and CHRC say?
I've been an LGF reader for years and never thought there was a censorship problem, until, of course, I disagreed with Charles on one issue. I, too, was banned from LGF, not because I was considered a facist conspirator, racist, or neo-nazi. No, it was because I disagreed, of all things, with his daily ritual at the time of searching for whatever offensive material he could find on then Pres. candidate Barack Obama's website's community pages and plastering it up on his page with "look what I found" quips, as if someone posting something on a free-to-register website automatically means the site owner agrees with everything posted there. I simply said I didn't feel it was fair to make that point, and complaints about Obama should center on actual relationships and first-hand statements, not this kind of nonsense. I said it was hypocritical to do this, especially when Charles had complained multiple times in the past about being associated with racist comments left by nuts on his blog.
Ironically, shortly after I was banned for "being a shill", as he said, another user who'd been disagreeing with him apologized and voiced concern that he, too, was close to a ban. Charles then opined that, no, he encourages free debate, of course.
If you've been banned from LGF, drop by LGF2:
http://littlegreenfootballs2.com/
LGF 2 - Link
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posted by rainydayweather.
To Anonymous, who posted on Nov. 19, at 10.42 am
I never belonged to the Discovery Institute, and I don't think I had even heard of the D.I. until Johnson began posting about them at his blog.
I never told Johnson what to post or not to post at his blog.
I think in at least one Evolution thread where he was bashing Christians, I mentioned that I found the incessant posting about Evolution, with its rude anti-Christian tone, to be offensive. And I was polite about it.
(In one post, Johnson even equated Christians who reject Evolution with Islamic Jihadis - genuine Christians who reject Evolution do not murder people, as murder is not sanctioned or condoned by Jesus Christ.)
If Johnson is going to post about topic "X" at his blog, I have every right to voice my opinion about him posting about topic "X."
That's kinda the whole point of a blog, allowing folks to voice their views one way or the other.
I never "trash talked" Johnson during my membership at LGF at other sites or blogs, so you can't pull that one on me, either.
You also mischaracterized Christians in your post.
I do not now, nor did I ever, believe that I was on some holy quest at LGF, or that God would "vindicate me" over the LGF fiasco, nor have I ever felt or stated that I was a "warrior fighting a battle [against] 'Stan'."
I don't know of any other former LGF Christian members who have said any of that or who feel that way, either.
You sound more nutty than the cardboard, fake, two dimensional Christian stereotype you wrote about.
You said,
"I'm a Christian and I often post about my faith at LGF but have never had a problem with Charles because I refrain from p*ssy, knee-jerk hyperdefensive responses to ID comments."
I find that very hard to believe,
1- that you're actually a Christian and
2- that you've ever posted against Evolution at LGF and are yet still a member there.
Oh, and I never posted in the way you characterize it; I never posted in a "p*ssy" manner and so forth.
All I did was paste in links to Anti-Evolution sites. That's hardly "hyper defensive" or "p*ssy."
But you know, so what if Christians did post in a "p*ssy" manner, or if they got hyper-defensive? Those are not strong reasons to ban someone from a blog.
Also, when you are as rude and condescending to people as he and his anti-Christian bigoted toadies are, especially in the midst of a topic that some folks feel so strongly about, even some Christians might let their tempers flare.
What kind of reaction does Johnson realistically expect, Christians and Jews to be thrilled when he implies that anyone who believes in a Creator/ who rejects Evolution is a dummy to send him candy grams and bouquets of flowers?
Another Anonymous writer said at Nov 19 1.47. am:
Oh it does. It's like the documented hate mail he gets from bitter, banned posters and closet Nazis.
I've never sent Mr. Johnson hate mail, either, so you can't peg that one on me.
Face it, Johnson sometimes is irrational, and bans people for stupid, trivial reasons (or his "monitor Lizards" are doing so).
blogagog said:
but he's not goofy enough to ban people who say things he disagrees with on other blogs.
I think Johnson has done so before, though.
Johnson claims to have banned Ed for posting stuff about Johnson at GCP, for example.
I remember seeing posts at LGF a few years ago by Johnson telling people at LGF (paraphrasing),
'if I catch you trash- talking about me at GCP, I'll ban you. This is MY blog, I pay for it, and I won't stand for people posting here who say rude things about me at other blogs.'
ArcherB said:
Does anyone else notice the irony of those defending LGF would have been banned at LGF for saying the things they are saying here?
Kinda proves the point, doesn't it?
Absolutely.
Blazing Cat Fur said,
Remember these guys take names, assume false on line identities and entrap commenters - charge you with a thought crime under Section 13(1) of the Canadian Human Rights Act, then send you before the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal where even truth is not a defense!
I feel fortunate to be an American.
lummox said,
I became bored with the Anti ID threads at LGF and expressed this in an open thread. Imagine my surprise when CJ chastized me a couple of posts down.
Me too; I was initially more bored by the anti-ID threads than offended by them.
As far as being offended-
I don't mind people criticizing I.D. or Creationism, but in doing so, Johnson (as well as a few other LGF members) was being extremely condescending to theists or to atheists/agnostics who were skeptical of Macro Evolution.
You can politely disagree with debate opponents, but Johnson doesn't seem to understand that.
It was his (and Killgore Trout's) snotty attitude towards evolution/ Christians/ I.D./Creationism that turned me off, not that he embraces Evolution and rejects ID/Creationism.
lummox, Johnson has a few trusted online friends who moderate LGF on his behalf.
If it was not Johnson himself who banned you, it might have been Killgore Trout, or some other rear-end kisser at LGF.
Eri said,
Charles then opined that, no, he encourages free debate, of course.
Bah ha ha ha! That's a good one. He most certainly does NOT encourage free debate. Quite the opposite.
You losers still here! I am not Medusa, or Medaura, or Kejda, or Popcontest, or Family Values, or Liberal Family, or any of my many, many sockpuppets or various aliases I use!
I would not let any of you buy me a cup of coffee!
>But you know, so what if Christians did post in a "p*ssy" manner, or if they got hyper-defensive? Those are not strong reasons to ban someone from a blog.<
Yeah, yeah... another "there I was just minding my own business when mean old CJ came along and BANNED me for no good reason!"
Get a clue: posting in a pissy manner is enough to get you banned on most ANY blog or forum, not just LGF.
Your response here is typical of many that I'm reading here on this thread: an argumentative personality, combined with a narcissistic sense of entitlement and a complete inability to take personal responsibility for ones' own actions (and accept the consequences of those actions).
>Also, when you are as rude and condescending to people as he and his anti-Christian bigoted toadies are,<
Yeah, I see what kind of person you are.
I would have banned you too.
And the lies just go on, and on, and on and on.
ANTISOCIAL PERSONALITY DISORDER
Diagnostic criteria
Three or more of the following are required:[1]
Failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for (BANNING, or) arrest;
Deceitfulness, as indicated by repeatedly lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure;
Impulsivity
Irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated fights or assaults;
Reckless disregard for safety of others;
Consistent irresponsibility
Lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another.
Care to comment, Ed?
narcissistic
Somebody's favorite new word.
I wonder how one describes threads about Chucks mad skilz programming...
Oh here we go. Another 'Big Gun' from LGF turned up clutching another straw. The basic premise of your point is that the only reason anyone could think that the dear leader is an ass hole is because he banned them. He's so perfect in every way that he couldn't possibly be at fault. He couldn't for example have lied and slandered them. No, it has to jealousy of those who snuggle around his ankles in adoration.
Anyone who wants to see an example of personality disorder should log on to a certain well known blog at about 4pm GMT and watch the minions poised to be the first one to declare that the dear leader is up and about. Waiting for some piggy eyed hippy to stop masturbating, get out his wanking pit to post them a picture of his breakfast. They can then have the same conversation they had the day before.
Bweep
'anonymous' must be "realwest", singling me out for special attention, because I pointed out how he lied about his father dying on SEptember 11th.
Reckless disregard for safety of others;
Yup, don't know how many dead and seriously injured people my typing has left in its wake.
One less sockpuppet left...
516 GuntherM
11/20/08 6:28:45 am reply quote 0
Realwest, can you tell us the story about how your Dad rushed pass police and firefighters on September 11th to save the poor victims trapped inside. It is my favorite...
Go for it, Ed. The suck-up moderators seem to be asleep.
Nah, just wanted to toss one rock into the cave of the blind guano eaters and see what fluttered up.
I may not post again at LGF for many months, other than the amusement value of watching realwest bounce off the walls, worrying that one of the 'lizards' will ask him what Gunther meant.
Once it is safely deleted, he can talk about 'backhanding' me again.
Of course, asking one of the two or three 'lizards' left who have been there more than a year any embarassing questions may be grounds for banning from Chuckles Serkus anyway...
Once it is safely deleted, he can talk about 'backhanding' me again.
Doesn't threatening someone with violence get you banned from LGF?
It's nice to see that Charles Johnson-bashing, both justified and unjustified, has reached such a critical mass that Nodrog's Greatest Hits and LGF BANNED AND BLOCKED may no longer be necessary to expose Little Green Footballs for what it truly is.
Little Green Footballs has passed its pinnacle, and is clearly sliding into a cranky, paranoid, narcissistic irrelevance. My prediction is that Charles Johnson will, within the next year or so, decide that it's no longer worth it, and will either can the whole blog or close it to comments.
He'll wake up one morning and look into the mirror to see what he's become, and then look at the typical LGF thread to see the company he keeps, and decide to bag it all.
I've just visited Debbie Schlussel's blog and was shocked to see that she is calling Michelle Obama -- soon to be America's First Lady -- "Blackie O".
Although she explains that it's a shortened version of "the black Jackie O", it still sounds terrible -- and, yes, racist -- to me.
I won't be visiting her website again.
I disagree with Gordon on a lot of issues, and I still have trouble shaking the suspicion he isn't Mama Bates to Charles' Norman, but assuming he is his own person, his 'Banned and Blocked' website is a wonderful resource.
I was outvoted about kepping Gordon at GCP, BTW. It isn't really a debate forum, nor does it claim to be one.
Unlike a certain echo chamber, that does pretend to be a debate forum, as long as all the posters agree with the meth addicted site owner.
Hey "Gunther"-Ed, for some amazing reason, your post remains undeleted on LGF (for now). Perhaps Johnson the Johnson realizes that you were quoted a few times by your detractors, and he would have to pull a BabbaZee 5/14/08 debacle to rid the thread of your fragrant airs. I would imagine that you have been blocked, although I have no way to confirm that at present.
You did, however, earn a "-18" - and Charles pathetic takedown of you in #908 is at +6.
And I notice that Realwest refuses to answer your allegations - hmmmm...
Case in point:
>Deceitfulness, as indicated by repeatedly lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure; <
And just three posts later, this from Ed:
>Ed Mahmoud said...
One less sockpuppet left...
516 GuntherM
11/20/08 6:28:45 am reply quote 0
Realwest, can you tell us the story about how your Dad rushed pass police and firefighters on September 11th to save the poor victims trapped inside. It is my favorite...<
And then he BRAGS about it.
Wow.
Nothing more need be said, really.
BTW... nice friends you have here, Robert Spencer. I hope that you're happy with yourself.
I guess you believe that Charles is a "meth addict" too, since you say absolutely NOTHING to stop this outrageous character assasination and defend the innocent reputation of a man who has been your good friend and ally for years.
As far as I'm concerned, your silence implies support for the people here who are slandering Mr. Johnsons' character for fun. Is it enough of a payback for you, you bitter little man?
Go ahead and rant away about being "persecuted", Robert... knock yourself out.
As far as I'm concerned, you're nothing but a damned hypocrite.
In the post above you see the classic LGF "guilt by association" smear in its purest form. Because Robert Spencer has not immediately denounced something posted here, he therefore endorses it!
Thanks for the laugh Sharmuta!
So now Robert Spencer has to spend his days, traveling from blog to blog, checking on the comments of each and every poster, comparing them to some list, determining who has been nic-jacked against who is actually the true owner of the nic? Otherwise he's a 'damned hypocrite'?
If 'Anonymous' above is an lgfer, that just shows the level of intelligence and groupthink the site has sunk to.
I'd much prefer that Robert continues his life as he chooses, writing books, educating people on the source of radical Islam. If he happens to testify before the U.S. Congress the lgfers would be the first to claim that he associates with KKKers, as Robert Byrd would certainly be in the audience. I don't think I have ever seen anything as personally repugnant as the concerted effort to tar Robert Spencer by those affiliated with lgf, coordinated and encouraged by Charles Johnson. Any respect I may have once had for the man is gone.
In fact, I'd like nothing better than for Robert Spencer to sue Charles Johnson for defamation of character, and to subpoena an assortment of lgfers to the trial to testify. I wonder how many, "I vast only folloving orders," a courtroom observer would hear?
Look! New improved LGF- now with 100% more groupthink! No, this is not a parody:
LGF: Now with Instant Karma Checking
Sci/Tech | Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 11:32:04 am PST
If you're registered and logged in to your account, you can click the icon next to the username in comments to show that commenter's profile. Now included in the profile information is the "karma," the sum total of all the "up" ratings you've received, minus the "down" ratings.
This is similar to a feature originated by sites like SlashDot, and is supposed to be another tool to help the community moderate itself.
Next- those with low Karma scores must wear patches...er... icons indicating which suspect behavior led to their low scores.
Should your Karma checking account reach zero, you will be insta-banned and all your comments liquidated.
Q-Burn
It is positive reinforcement in a group setting, which would tend to reward those who conform to the groupthink and punish those who deviate from the norm.
The two highest up-ding receivers are interesting- Sharmuta and Buzzsawmonkey. Sharmuta (formerly Bush-Lover) appears to be head enforcer of groupthink, and appears to be loved by the suckups and sockpuppets for her one-liners. While Buzzsawmonkey, when he sets the puns aside for a minute and writes his thoughts out in a few paragraphs, seems to be diametrically opposed to Johnson's biases and prejudices. He writes almost consistently with the lowest confrontational content I've seen, yet yields no ground in his arguments. He's about the only poster left at lgf who is worth reading. I sure wish he'd start his own blog so I wouldn't have to wade through the incessant "text" level of verbiage from the preponderance of posters.
What do you think Charles will come up with next, electric shock bio-feedback 'therapy' for those who receive a "down-ding"?
"I don't think I have ever seen anything as personally repugnant as the concerted effort to tar Robert Spencer by those affiliated with lgf, coordinated and encouraged by Charles Johnson. Any respect I may have once had for the man is gone."
This needed to be said again.
posted by rainydayweather
"Get a clue: posting in a p*ssy manner is enough to get you banned on most ANY blog or forum, not just LGF.
No, it's not. You're still posting here, after all.
Your response here is typical of many that I'm reading here on this thread: an argumentative personality, combined with a narcissistic sense of entitlement and a complete inability to take personal responsibility for ones' own actions (and accept the"
I'm definitely not "argumentative" or "narcissistic."
I don't have a sense of 'entitlement,' but I do have a sense of fairness: one does not ban other people from one's blog for disagreeing with a view, for 'voting down' a topic.
Cognito's kids had better take control of his finances before Charles bankrupts him.
NOTHING else explains the Bannned/Forgiven cycles that he goes through in his life as a Typing Dervish.
"What do you think Charles will come up with next, electric shock bio-feedback 'therapy' for those who receive a "down-ding"?"
He's using his madd skilz to have their monitor irradiate them with dosages far exceeding industry standards. Laptoppers will be rendered sterile after only one Chas-mocking comment or nine down-dings.
Thou shalt have no Gods but Chas.
Bwahahahaha!
No secret, that anonymous poster is that woman that looks like Madame Murry O'Hair. Remember Ed, the one that fought against prayer in the schools and won and then was later chopped up into little pieces?
You know, Nana or something. Was iit Baltimore Nana or some such?
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